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about rinvoq. learn how abbvie can help you save. explosive testimony today about what trump and those close to him knew heading into the insurrection. aide to former white house chief of staff publicly testifying trump was told his supporters were armed but said they're not here to hurt me. cnn ryan nobles has more. >> from the moment she was sworn in, cat hssidy hutchinson made clear she had much to share. >> the first moment i remember feeling scared. and nervous for what could happen. on january 6. >> providing unique insight into a chaotic white house in the days leading up to...

Group which was deflect and blame. let's blame anti-fa. these aren't our people. it's my understanding that mr. meadows was in the deflect and blame category. but he did end uptaking a neutral route. knowing there were several advisers in the president's circle urging him to take more action. >> so chris whipple is here the author of the gate keepers. how the white house chief of staff define every presidency. chris, good evening. here's what hutchinson is describing. three camps with totally different explanations of what went down. meadows the deflect and blame side. to neutral. i know you c...

Yourself antifa if you chose to. if you're opposed to fascism. >> i am. >> then you are antifa. it's anti-fascism. let's say they can build a website to educate children. do you think people deserve love? anti-fa? >> anti-fa is anti-fascism. in the world of politics where is it on the left right? it's not. >> the political compass is more like a square that i use. go down to the bottom left. that's where you find it. the political ideology i have now. >> anarcho communism. >> no leaders. >> you go to the top right, that's fascism. >> where is i'm with hillary democrat? >> left of center as opp...

Of the hard core activists. >> i was reading an article. raffi, anti-fa. this is aerial. lucky for us she's there to help us learn. >> tucker carlson at one point in the not too distant past labeled me a leader of anti-fa. >> kamaul bell is a supporter of antifa. they hate this country. they want to tear it down. none of that seems to matter to bell. you are peddling hate, and bell is. >> i was funny to me. i've never been to a meeting. for example, does the pronunciation, which way? >> i usually say antifa. i describe it more like this. do you approve of fascism? >> no. >> then you could cons...

So when they say we -- >> cnn sucks. >> they pay my rent. >> cnn. >> i'll tell my kids. >> make america great again. >> you're doing a good job. love that sweater. there are people out there who the red neck revolt to stop the rise of hate. i'm across puget sound to do what alt-right twitter thinks i'm always doing, meeting up with anti-fa. they get the headlines for confronting the alt-right. they are associated but they have one difference. the red neck revolt is about preventing violence, and anti-fa is like we wish a nazi would. they wanted to meet up at the japanese american exclusion mem...