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As -- as far left folks who are gathering downtown for dualing rallies, police have created a physical barrier, all throughout the downtown area, several major businesses have been closed, hotels have been warning people. many of their guests to stay away from this situation. they have closed several of the bridges, port land is known for its beautiful bridges, several of them are closed as a result of this, and several streets as well. police forming that physical barrier, one of the groups, the proud boys and their supporters have made their way. this has been taking place for some two hours...

Resources you have often times, you're not going to have the full contingent of resources you may need to keep total and complete separation of those two opposing viewpoints. you do the best you can, you minimize the risk, you shift personnel around according to locations that may have more demonstrators in them. it's always a huge challenge, there's a finite amount of law enforcement personnel on the scene. you have to work at managing your resources at those scenes. >> the police department saying they have more than 1,000 officers, which is a good chunk of the police force out on the street...

Point. we don't know what's happening here, things are quite tense on the ground. breaking out in pockets, you see these playerups, just like what is appears to be happening right now. it's a very okay oltic situation. it's a very dynamic situation, and police are taking not a back seat, but trying to find the groups as separate as they can. we're monitoring it as it happens. >> you would think the police would be there in the mix, instead -- how far away are the cops right now? >>. >> there's a police line all around us. they're backing away from this crowd, they're trying to keep the two lar...

Any idea why the president would try to demonize antifa as opposed to other groups that are there in portland? >> president trump has consistently tried to raise antifa in terms of a defining who his opposition is, that's the strategy you're seeing here, i think collectively, when you look at the top line of you, to see where everything is at this moment. and this time in the summer, we've had countless shootings, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have said they're going to try to get some type of participate reform. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has said as much, this is a pivotal...

Early, the rallies were expected to begin about a half hour ago. quite a few people have showed up there on the waterfront. the police chief in portland has said that they are sitting on a powder keg there. over the last few weeks, months for that matter, portland has been the center of what they believe has been this race war, these tensions that have been bubbling up right here in the united states. and they say this they hope will stay calm. but they fear this might be the epitome of it, and that powder keg may go on right there near the hawthorne bridge, where you have these far right grou...