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Utter nonsense. megyn: larry, the president what exactly could he do? he d have to get it through congress. he doesn t have an antigun congress. the president made a play, and he s covering it up now in the fast and furious scandal, which was designed as we know from email that have been leaked into the congressional record to change the optics on the gun control debate, giving guns into the hands of the mexican cartel, some 300 mexicans have now been killed, a couple of our federal agents. they wanted to have a basis to say, our bad, all our guns are going down into mexico and causing the problem, when in fact the government itself was out of control, and if they ll do that now before the election, who can imagine what they might try after the election if they were successful getting reelected. megyn: guns have been under attack i guess for lack of a better term in the wake of the trayvon martin murder down in florida, where the stand your ....
Karen harnett is executive director of the small business legal center at the national federation of independent business and a plaintiff in this case against the healthcare law and professor randy barnett is legal counsel for the federation. you have the weather of and the lawyer here challenging this law. and this is a huge week for you next week, a huge week for you as you try to get this law struck down. let me start with you, karen. in terms our viewers can understand, why do you think this law will be so harmful to businesses? right, well it s two fold. first of all we ve got congress for the first time selling small business owners and indeed all americans across this country, you must go and buy this product and take your precious hard earned dollars, especially for small business owners, you can t put that into your business, no-no you need to buy this health insurance policy that you may or may not need or want. megyn: randy, the government has said it can do this because i ....
A republican group releasing this ad. how you doing, sam? this is not good, sam. liberals in congress put government bureaucrats twin and your doctor. i want you to lie down for me. liberals in congress promise is to lower healthcare costs but obama-care increases costs and sticks taxpayers with a staggering $1.7 trillion bill. while the economy struggles, obama-care raises taxes on small businesses and costs america 800,000 jobs. megyn: what do average americans think two years after the lay was passed. let s bring in our focus panel. a mixed group of democrats and republicans. i thought that ad by the ....
President was pretty powerful and well done. for those of how do not like this law and have not liked this law, did it soften you at all? no. no. at its core this thing is no more popular today than it was two years ago when it passed. it has a process problem. rammed through the congress the middle of the night, passed by members who had not read the bill. megyn: when you see the baby there and the father talking about preexisting conditions. we still took over 1/6 of the u.s. economy to fix a problem affecting 10% of the population. obama had no mandate to do what he did. i oppose obama-care but that spot is effective because it does talk to people s hearts. it s hard to go against the narrative. i run a media company. it s hard to go against a story playing out but. ....
Grounds, not constitutional grounds. there is a very strong basis for congress authority under the commerce clause to do exactly what congress did. megyn: you ve been making that argument for years about the commerce clause not just in connection with healthcare. i want to ask you one final thing, there is a report out from the hill that suggests that you have now said publicly that president obama abandoned you in the last days of your primary fight, you turned democrat and you needed his help to get that nomination, you lost it and then the democrat lost in the general election. he abandoned you in those final days. notwithstanding the fact that you stood behind him on healthcare and on stimulus, is that true? megyn, the facts have been out there for a longtime. the president made a commitment to support me, urged me to become a democrat, urged me to support the stimulus package, and when the campaign came he didn t show up. i didn t draw any conclusions or use any words like aban ....