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It's almost laughable. talk about jack conway down in kentucky who's running for senate. the democrat running against rand paul. to call him anti-coal, this guy has said blatantly that he will never vote for a cap and trade bill, he opposed the house bill, and he even as attorney general tried to oppose the bill finding that greenhouse gases are a threat to human kind. the idea that he's out to beat up coal is silly. >> and when it comes to any coal issue, what you end up is less partisan divides and more just intense regional blocks. it never looked like you were going to get a lot of coal st...

The coal industry spent $15 million on lobbying last year. so they already have a voice in washington. it's very clear. they don't need to spend millions of dollars on elections in order to do that. but now they'll have that opportunity as well. >> well, let's talk about that. in the wake of the death of the -- of any kind of cap and trade and the new energy bill proposed by the democrats in the senate, which doesn't have a price on carbon, how much of that was the coal companies, frankly? i mean, they seemed to be the ones that were providing the backbone of the opposition on this? >> absolut...

Tax cuts that were set to extend next year. >> ezra klein of "the washington post," "newsweek" columnist, and also a msnbc contributor, great thanks. have a great weekend, man. >> thank you. mountaintop removal of coal. it's not that bad. that's what tea party standarder bearer rand paul says, defending big coal in kentucky. cs with shockguard technology give you immediate relief that lasts all day long. dr. scholl's. pain relief is a step away.

Out on the french riviera tl with his buddy spike eliot is a great example. if they're not directly spending on politicians, they've been really, really good about yielding their influence, whether that's vacations or just basically intimidating everyone in the state or helping fund all these deferent front groups. faces of coal, as we've talked about. they've done a pretty good job of using significant financial influence over state politics there. >> that's what's so hilarious. it's not like there's no voice for coal in kentucky and west virginia. i mean, there's this section in the letter w...

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