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Eventually the watergate investigation that led to nixon's resignation also led to do first-ever criminal conviction of a u.s. attorney general. nixon's attorney general had lied about the itt scandal during his confirmation hearing. he got nailed for it because of the task force that was set up under the watergate prosecutor to look at that specific thing. what started with a check for $400,000 and a supposedly triumphant homecoming republican convention for an insecure president. that discrete stand alone scandal, unrelated to the watergate cover-up. that itt scandal, making that antitrust c...

How do you get your arms around the problem when you're a complete outsider. that's the problem joe klein faced in 2002 when then mayor michael bloomberg appointed him the chancellor of the new york city public school system. he's written an interesting book about his ten-year tenure. joe klein, thanks for joining me. >> great to be with you, fareed. >> before we get to the public schools, i have to ask you a question. before you were doing this in another life incarnation, you were one of america's great litigators and the justice department, you took bill gates and microsoft to trial and ver...

Appointed him the chancellor of the new york city public school system. he's written an interesting book about his ten-year tenure. joe klein, thanks for joining me. >> great to be with you, fareed. >> before we get to the public schools, i have to ask you a question. before you were doing this in another life incarnation, you were one of america's great litigators and the justice department, you took bill gates and microsoft to trial and very famous antitrust case, and so you know the law, and what i'm going to ask you about is the law where its meeting higher education. asian americans are s...

Case, not the state of pennsylvania, so i don't even think the state of pennsylvania has standing, so i don't think this case is going to fly at all in court. i think the ncaa will be able to throw it out-of-court. arthel: part of the lawmakers concern there in pennsylvania is that where is that money going to be spent, the $60,000 fine that the university is going to pay. go ahead, fred. >> well, you're correct and that is part of their objections as to where the money is going to go. the first 12 million has been spend and some of it has gone out of pennsylvania. they are angry about that. t...

A former federal prosecutor. i'll start with you fred, does the judge have a legal leg to stand on. >> you hear a lot about the antitrust cases. i understand that's what the case is going to be about. i've been involved in a lot of major antitrust cases over the years. they are very, very, very difficult cases to win. so, i won't get into all the details about it, but it's one thing to yell and cream about an antitrust lawsuit, it's a far different thing to win one. they made a contract with the university penn state and he's going to have to undue that. he has an upward road to who he. arthel...