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Going capital t trial. such a disgrace in reporting. that is what people are saying that this was an antitrust finding, not the president interceded. >> it seems this is another example of rudy being rusty for lack of a better word. you have the president being more cautious and more accurate in framing what transpired with the rans action, at least the official position saying it's a decision the justice department made as opposed to a decision he made but it's unhelpful to have giuliani, unhelpful for the administration to have giuliani suggesting the president made this decision when there ...

Capital t trial. such a disgrace in reporting. well, that is, in a way, what people are saying, that this was an antitrust finding, not that the president interceded. >> right. i mean it seems to me this is yet another example of rudy being rusty for lack of a better word. here you have the president being, i think, more cautious and perhaps more accurate in framing what transpired with the at&t transaction, at least the official position of the administration, saying it's a decision the justice department made as opposed to a decision he made. but it's certainly unhelpful to have giuliani -- ...

Well, that is, in a way, what people are saying, that this was an antitrust finding, not that the president interceded. >> right. i mean it seems to me this is yet another example of rudy being rusty for lack of a better word. here you have the president being, i think, more cautious and perhaps more accurate in framing what transpired with the at&t transaction, at least the official position of the administration, saying it's a decision the justice department made as opposed to a decision he made. but it's certainly unhelpful to have giuliani -- unhelpful for the administration to have giulia...