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Integration in empty army. so this is the person who is supposed to be leading the way for women to have further access to these off-limits assignments. so i mean, there's a real lack of understanding at the highest levels of the military in terms of the accomplishments of women in iraq and afghanistan, the fact that women can do the job. they have fought. they have proven themselves in combat in the last decade of war. and yet, they're still scrutinized for how they look and what they wear. there's a lot of remaining sex discrimination in the military. aside from the assignments that women ca...

That easing and bending sounds like progress. glass ceilings only ease and bend so far. more than 238,000 other military positions, mostly in the army and marine corps remain off limits to women. this week, new action was taken to change that. with the help of the aclu and the service women's action network, four service women, one of whom is my guest, filed a federal lawsuit against defense secretary, leon panetta, arguing that any pentagon ban against women in combat roles is unconstitutional. statistics say more than 1,000 women have been killed in the line of duty in iraq and afghanistan. ...

Cases, and i hope the american public is outraged. >> i think that outrage has already come to the surface and that's why we talk about it on a national level. now that it is out there and you're hearing from the women and you see that the pentagon won't comment on the lawsuit, that's really frustrating, too. are you confident that we will see change now that it's being talked about more on the national level? >> absolutely. if we keep the pressure on policy makers and on the department of defense, they can't get away with the climate anymore. we spent millions of dollars. we've had task force...