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All the interviews they do, put them together and look at the clear picture. >> he isn't going to protect anybody. he doesn't care anything b. anything. >> on the run in the adirondacks, have you been up there. >> yes. >> so it's pretty primitive territory. you could dodge the guards. ' got your food and pepper cover your smell i guess did he that and they had clothing and stuff like that. so, i wasn't -- i'm not critical of the hunt. i think the hunt was inevitable that they would get them. but they didn't seem to have a plan other than evading day to day right? >> it appears that their plan ...

Look i think we proved this yard by showing some the signs in motion when president bush was in office that there is no doubt that the media will seize upon any kind of misbehavior on the right. anything to blow it up into a major story and to demonize the whole whatever group is involved. whereas if it happens on the left it, will, as mary katharine said be deemphasized or ignored entirely. so that's a corrupt media system, isn't it? >> well, wait a second. you know, again, i think we are out of context here. if we are talking about, you know, somebody going after ronald reagan, you know, one...

Was dumb, just dumb, i have got some really good news from a deep inside friend today who said that because the pakistanys are pushing into the tribal areas and really now killing taliban and al qaeda members, although they are killing them selectively but still they are killing them. this friend inside our military system, deep inside has seen the taliban arguing among themselves, taliban fighting mujahideen and all of them making fun of al qaeda because al qaeda is not doing anything, they are not in the fight. they are not delivering money anymore. so any time we get our enemies fighting am...

Look i think we proved this yard by showing some the signs in motion when president bush was in office that there is no doubt that the media will seize upon any kind of misbehavior on the right. anything to blow it up into a major story and to demonize the whole whatever group is involved. whereas if it happens on the left it, will, as mary katharine said be deemphasized or ignored entirely. so that's a corrupt media system, isn't it? >> well, wait a second. you know, again, i think we are out of context here. if we are talking about, you know, somebody going after ronald reagan, you know, one...

Blank, i would believe it end of story. but john lewis hasn't gone on to say that. and all i'm saying, bill, is that while if it happened, it's reprehensible as a journalist, something doesn't feel right about this to me. >> bill: listen. they blew it -- even if it happened, it was such an isolated. >> even if happened, this blew it. >> bill: boom. i didn't see kirtz' show. but what they were doing on that show was saying that if you question the veracity of what was reported, even without any tape, any arrest, cops said they didn't hear anything, this and that. if you question it, then you ar...