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Outside the capital. >> i understand you've been learning new details about members of the congressional democratic black caucus. put all of this together, how does this impact the election next year? >> it is tearing the democrats apart at the moment, which is not a great message when the presidential candidates are arguing about race. going back to the justice democrats, this is all tied together. justice democrats is aligned closely with aoc, ocasio-cortez. a lot of these black lawmakers feel the justice democrats, the aoc group is coming after them. they are saying, perhaps this is

How the party being pulled to the left is what's happening in 2016. bernie or bust. bernie pouting. i was looking at him at the dnc and bernie is not up there. i can't vote for hillary. it split the party. we'll have a repeat of that in 2020. we have different players. it will come down to the aoc group and the bernie supporters over joe biden supporters. so i do think that -- i worry that pulling the party too far left is going to alienate the moderate centrist democrats, independents and republicans disillusioned with trump. >> sandra: he said we shouldn't abandon our priorities and details ...