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Warring for the party platform. last question, you talked about the aoc wing of the party. what kind of numbers are reporting on that? nancy pelosi says there are only four votes. is that growing? >> right now it is just these four women in the squad, but there's the progressive caucus which does support many of the same ideas that they've pushed, whether it's the green new deal or medicare for all. so it'll be interesting, especially in these debates coming up, to see how many candidates are embracing similar policies. >> harris: congressional reporter for politico today on the program, thank...

Aisle from the right. what does nancy pelosi hope to do to defuse that? that's a big issue. that's an overarching issue. >> you are exactly right. on the one hand, there is a benefit to having a united democratic caucus heading into 2020. democrats say they want to really unite around the common goal of defeating the president at the ballot box. on the other hand, there is that risk of the centrist democrats being tied to the aoc wing of the party. not every modern democrat here in the house wants to be associated with these women. they don't want to be pegged as socialists or far left liberal...

Democratic party by defining people who are not running for president. >> the president works best when he has a foil. he is a counterpuncher. we don't know who the democratic candidate is going to be. this heir of inevitability around joe biden has been erased. i think until we do have a standard bearer for the party, i think he's going to continue these attacks on these progressive women. this has been the strategy of the gop more broadly to try to paint democrats as socialists and tie the entire party to the a.o.c. wing of the democratic caucus. whether this is going to hurt him if he's not...

Who are going up against nancy pelosi implying certain things about pelosi. we talked the about this yesterday, maybe an implication of racism. but this is the battle, and are they divided, and what does this mean going forward. jedediah: nancy pelosi had given an interview in "the new york times" to maureen dowd on july 6th, and this is what she said. all these people have their public whatever and their twitter world, but they didn't have any following. they're four people, and that's how many votes they got. if the left doesn't think i'm left enough, so be it. we have to have a solution, no...

Is very talented, she's very smart and she'll be a force to be reckon with. jillian: is she the best new hope for the democrats to take on president trump in 2020? here to debate that is gop strategist and democratic strategist kevin, thank you both for joining us, we certainly appreciate it this morning, kevin, i will start with you, is she the one to take on the president? >> she certainly has a good chance, she helped herself with her performance and i think that it's something that we will continue snow-ball over the next months or so, after her performance on thursday she actually raised ...