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President zelensky decided that they were not going to issue thatt statement that Rudy Giuliani wanted to include burisma in the 2016 elections, there was no white house meeting. It soon became clear to them that the Security Assistance was also at risk. And that took on a renewed importance for them. Well, following the 25th call, the t july 25th call, ambassador sondland and volker worked closely with mr. Giuliani and the ukrainians to help draft a statement that the president could make, president zelensky. Wasnt that right . Yes. And the report said they worked closely and there were also ...

Do you see the fact that an investigation wasn't opened ints the president's conduct as being tied to any of the phenomena we have been talking about, the a.g., the fact that 40% of the country won't believe anything bad about this president. do you see all theset factors interconnected at this point? >> i do, but i can't say that i connect the decision not to open aot case on ukraine because i don't know enough about their decisionmaking. i'm deeply skeptical of this attorney general. but i don't know enough about whot decided what inside the department. >> let me reade something that you wri...