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Are operating out in the open. so what does that add. another option as well is accelerating some of the military aid in the pipeline here. f-16s, hell fire missiles, apache helicopters, useful but also a danger, as well. u.s. evacuating american contractors from a base north of baghdad, those guys were there to train the iraqis this advance of the arrival of the f-16s. imagine if the f-16s were already there, they might have been lost asset, as well. so each has its limitations and

But right now all of the language appears to be -- official language appears to be limited in the concept of helping with additional equipment, training, intelligence sharing, perhaps helping the iraqis with some intelligence sharing about where these militants are located. over the years, since the u.s. got involved in iraq, the u.s. has given iraq $15 billion in arms and equipment. on the way f-16s, apache helicopters. the question is can the iraqi forces really look after their own security. >> i know you're hearing the same things i am, this does not feel good. this was the worst fear of p...

Military may just melt away, so we can't leave our people to fight or get hurt or anything. but jennifer, that's not all that's there. also there are these weapons that you just mentioned. there are these helicopters, drones, there's everything else. you telling me we flew all of that out on these planes as we headed out of there at a moment's notice? w no, they're still there. either we blew them up so the insurgents couldn't have them, or they're there for the insurgents. do we know which of those it was? >> well, there is also a huge contradiction that you've just touched on, and that is th...

Turkey is watching what the kurds are doing. refugees are flooding all across the border. and, yet, i think that you can't talk about this subject without saying that since 2012, it has been falling little by little. the violence has been-,mñ increasing. if you are all of a sudden just paying attention to iraq now, you haven't been paying attention since 2012. and president obama has completely withdrawn from this conversation. >> but, it's interesting, you know, today he says that you know, to protect american national security interests, you know, we may not putting any -- taking anything o...

We have been providing them training. we have been providing them f-16s and apache helicopters. we should speed up that delivery and the exit tent to which we can help with air strikes and drones with no boots on the ground, i think a good decision. i think we would really need to reassess whether or not our engagement would extend beyond that. >> airstrikes, what would need to happen for you to say yes, let's get involved to that level? >> i think what we need to hear is tactically, how it would be done and how effective it would be and would we be using drones? those are the kinds of questio...