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Takes in order to stay in power. >> to that point, who do you say, danielle, is more morally culpable between mccarthy and josh santos? >> that's a whole toss-up. i would say chemical. you would think that he would know better for the decades that he's been in conference. >> a fellow. point panel, stick around. we have a lot more to discuss after the break. republicans learn nothing from their losses in the midterms. we will explain. we will explain.

Capitol hill and went to that place with such starry-eyed and the idea that i wanted to be a public servant and serve america. to see someone like george santos there is a stain. it's a stain on our government. it's a stain on the prestige that used to come with being a representative. in this country. i think it's an embarrassment. but mccarthy is not above embarrassment. he's an above doing whatever it takes in order to stay in power. >> to that point, who do you say, danielle, is more morally culpable between mccarthy and josh santos? >> that's a whole toss-up. i would say chemical. you wou...

Indictments? >> it helps russians. they like to see further discord. if we aren't doing all we he can to preevent a future attack and we aren't going back in time to reopen cases around e-mails oor uranium deals, that disunity allows them to attack us again. i think the best thing we can do is have an interpendant commission. i have written legislation to elijah cummings just like after september 11th to pursue this on the house intelligence committee. but having a bipartisan apoint panel of experts is probably our best way it fix the mess we're in. >> have you democrats, you and adam schiff a...