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Actions and a representative for mr. barr said that this had been reviewed by department of justice ethics officials and to be honest no one has asserted that he has broken a rule here. he is paying for this event with his own money, it is not a department of justice official event, it is not required -- there is no required attendance by federal officials. so it's really more of a -- you know, an appearance thing. do people care how this looks? do they think -- will they question whether the attorney general is independent enough from the president to do higs job or is this fine? is this some...

Logo. how do you combat that? >> in general, i haven't hit as much bias in terms of myself as a female provider. i became a professional when people were bias. >> don't bring up the good ole days. nobody wants to hear how great things were when pc magazine was this big. it's time to move on. in general, you just don't want to live in the past. >> and, with 40 years under her belt, robin has real value to add. >> i can walk down the line, tell you who will succeed and who won't succeed. to i have to get past the appearance thing. so many of these kids are my comrades. i try to mentor the ones i...

Budget. the other thing is, you know, the sequester has belt tightening all over the place. i think you could argue for appearance sake let's do this. let's do that. there are 100 things. i don't know that the republican members of congress have canceled all of their spring break trips that they take. that would also be an appearance thing. you know, but really the big core is how is the government itself going to come together? how are they going to make a deal? how are they going to fix this budget? because as he said this is really just kind of small, particularly when the purpose of the tr...