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About politically and personally. how does he size up with a steve bannon? >> you know they worked to the as a team on the campaign. i think that's really important to talk about with what mr. daly just said in terms of the team aspect of being inside the white house. look, things to keep in mind, when steve bannon took over the campaign, look where the polls were at that time. and look where they were about four weeks later with his team with dave bossy and kellyanne conway. they came in and by the end of september trump was leading in the polls. of course he ultimately won. as paul ryan said...

>> well, help me understand this, mike, so reince priebus is part of the autopsy report 2012 before it comes out in 2013 says we need to built a bigger tent. we have to show that our values translate to you no matter your race, your religion, your economic standing, steve bannon, through breitbart, has a very different agenda. they see diversity as a tool of the left. and there's a lot of division, and the politics are almost by definition antithetical to a big tent. how do you reconcile those two things? >> well, the way you reconcile them is that both of them now work for president-elect tru...

Commerce secretary under bill clinton, bill daley and former chief of staff of the rnc under reince priebus mike shields. great guests for this segment. gentlemen, thanks to you both. first mr. daily, just give us an idea. what does the chief of staff do in the white house? and how much influence could a chief strategist have over that position and over the administration agenda? >> well, i think, first of all the chief of staff in theory, and each president is different and approaches it differently based upon their style, is supposed to be the main coordinator of all the different pieces, no...

Believe him. doesn't mean he wasn't saying it. he was saying that on the campaign trail. he just hired reince priebus as his chief of staff. reince understands all facets of the party. personally he's a very conservative republican himself. but he not only, you know, people say inside in washington he certainly has relationships on capitol hill which is going to serve president-elect trump very well. but he also is very in touch with the grassroots, and the conservative elements of the party up and down. he came up through the grassroots. he was a state party chairman before he got elected rnc...

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