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>> do you want more boots on the ground, sir? >> well, i want us to do something with our allies around the world to change the dynam ic. i don't want to see us with another massive occupation of a muslim country. i think that's the wrong approach. to me, the lesson of afghanistan and iraq is that we can send in massive numbers of troops. we can win the battles, but unless we deal with the political problems there, they don't stay won. and we don't report to have to occupy these countries indefinitely. we need to do more to address the political problems. and the political problems both in ira...

And terrorists. isis is not an islamic thing. it's a death cult hiding behind islam. hillary clinton was right about that. i think we're going to have to do more surveillance of american citizens that's all of us, not just muslims. that doesn't mean we have to invade everybody's rights. we'll have to do something about semiautomatics. the point about semiautomatics that the opponents of gun control make. if that guy had a pistol, some people would have been killed but probably not 14 of them. so a lot has to be done here. i think hillary laid out a pretty good set of things to do this morning ...

Terrorism. >> congressman, in trying to understand the president's measured approach, how much of it is an effort not to be ala alarmist and not give isis the satisfaction that this country is terribly alarmed by its actions. is it part of his calculation? should it be? >> it should be part of a calculation that he doesn't want the country to do things that would be counterproductive. if we simply lash out at the islamic community or isolate our own islamic community at home that's not productive. we have to view this as a key ally on extremism. particularly here at home where members of the c...