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Are explaining is, no, no, you have a legal problem now and there's going to come a time and we may have already reached it for some of you where the legal problems are more important than the pr problems right now. so that's the tension that you're seeing and those are the disagreements and different points of view that are being tossed around internally, and some of that tension and some of that disagreement, you're seeing come outside, bubble up. >> i want to read just one little portion of that article that you wrote. one of the authors of this article, it says, he won't follow instruction...

And then when he tried to come on to her and turned him down she says that when he punished her in the workplace. >> she made a big point she doesn't want any money or a settlement she want as workplace for her daughters that's free of this kind of what she said intimidation. this isn't happening in a vacuum because you got the roger ailes problem before. fox has a public relations problem. >> sometimes boycotts are short term pr problems. think about glen beck, for example, advertisers pulled from his show. his show went on for a while at fox but eventually ended. rush limbaugh has been hit b...

Instinct? >> i would say instinct is better having a check on it. that is the oblem. you have these biases. you are wired pr problems. your memory distorts your judgment. we think in stereotypes. i give you a counter example. these guys were brought in by delta airlines in the late '80s having problems in cockpits because pilots were doing things like landing in miami instead of fort lauderdale. >> and taking off at lax and turn off the engine, almost crashes into the pacific. >> and they said the problem is you have a captain nobody questions judgment and no one checks. it's the structure of ...

El chapo is back in the very same prison that he escaped from, this prison behind me. it is the most secure in awful mexico, but el chapo was still able to escape. a lot of eyebrows being raised here, the worry of course that he could escape again. chris. >> hopefully they closed up that huge tunnel that his people were able to build right under that prison. nick valencia, thank you. so we have legal problems, ethical problems, pr problems for sure, lots of possibilities. let's discuss what is and isn't real coming out of this situation. we have paul cowan and mr. brian stelter with us again...

Security resolution, and north korea does not care about that, and it is interesting to see what the chinese will do, and they have called the bluff, and saying, too bad, we will do this anyway, and will the chinese do something, and use the economic leverage? probably not, because they don't want to have a country on the border that has big economic pr problems, so i am guessing that we won't see a heck of a lot in the aftermath of this unless something escalates because south korea reacts, and north e korea, but barring that, there is not a lot to be done. >> and one last question, and i hav...