are explaining is, no, no, you have a legal problem now and there's going to come a time and we may have already reached it for some of you where the legal problems are more important than the pr problems right now. so that's the tension that you're seeing and those are the disagreements and different points of view that are being tossed around internally, and some of that tension and some of that disagreement, you're seeing come outside, bubble up. >> i want to read just one little portion of that article that you wrote. one of the authors of this article, it says, he won't follow instructions, he won't compartmentalize, he won't discipline himself, and you give the example, devlin, after one meeting in which they urged trump to steer clear of a certain topic, he went out and sent a tweet about the very thing before his legal counsel arrived back at their office. so john dean, if you were advising the president, if you were one of his lawyers dpeeali with this, what would you do? >> i guess you can just keep repeating the problems and the implications they have for him