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That's not entirely true but i think it's largely true. then of course there's fox in this separate category all together of being just sort of an arch propaganda network. >> there was a long period of time -- to take the watergate analogy. ultimately it persuaded the country. nixon was at 22 or 23% by the time he left. do you think those same conditions hold now? >> i think it's happening. if you look at the popularity polls of the president and his policies, the tax bill for example, we're seeing a gradual erosion in the support for him and the level of trust, but i pay much more attention t...

Typically crappy at it. they're breathless and focused almost entirely on the investigation to the exclusion of the other very real damage that is being done to the democracy. that's not entirely true but i think it's largely true. then of course there's fox in this separate category all together of being just sort of an arch propaganda network. >> there was a long period of time -- to take the watergate analogy. ultimately it persuaded the country. nixon was at 22 or 23% by the time he left. do you think those same conditions hold now? >> i think it's happening. if you look at the popularity ...

They're breathless and focused almost entirely on the investigation to the exclusion of the other very real damage that is being done to the democracy. that's not entirely true but i think it's largely true. then of course there's fox in this separate category all together of being just sort of an arch propaganda network. >> there was a long period of time -- to take the watergate analogy. ultimately it persuaded the country. nixon was at 22 or 23% by the time he left. do you think those same conditions hold now? >> i think it's happening. if you look at the popularity polls of the president a...