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Effort of republican and democrats who want to protect mueller from that happening. >> i am of the view that bob mueller is a responsible, honest, intelligent and above boortd guy he is in an awkward position after the president is throwing trumpian tweets and bob mueller has respect on both sides of the aisle. but god only knows if the president said that is it. he has to order the attorney general. he has to order rod rose rosenstein to do it and if the solicitor general has to do it. and he fired archbald cox. >> neil: it is a longer chain of

President richard nixon 45 years ago. carl bernstein joins us now. he and woodward won the pulitzer prize for their watergate coverage. he also co-wrote the book "all the president's men." and carl, you point blank say trump's russia response is eerily similar to nixon's leading up to the saturday night massacre, the night in 1973 when president richard nixon fired special prosecutor archbald cox and elliot richardson as well as the deputy attorney general resigned. i'm so glad to have you here this weekend. i want to go slowly through some of the parallels you draw. you write everything from ...

After the firing of archbald cox, the judge issued an opinion in which he pointed out, it's clear in american law that you cannot violate the regulation, one ari brought up, because you are president. so megan would presumably know this, and in addition to protecting himself, which i think is the more reasonable interpretation of this, he would also understand this wouldn't hold up and the three-week reads for attacking mueller, i would not be surprised if that ended up in a courtroom that the judge would dismiss it as a frivolous. the worst thing the judge can say to a lawyer is you made an a...

Political office when everyone thinks -- someone thinks the office holder is about to make a mistake, they look for help wherever they can. who can influence this person? who can make this person not do this? >> so the likelihood that jared kushner was pulled in is extremely high. the likelihood the president's daughter was pulled in on this is high. it seems like part of the agenda the special prosecutor would have with all of them. >> right. if you let trump be trump, not only is the there a chance you've committed a crime. but you'll have donald put himself not just in impeachment mode but ...

You talk to serious people in the course of your work everyday. how serious do people take the chance that mueller will be fired? >> well, look, people do take it seriously. the fact we are having there conversation is fascinating. we didn't have this conversation about the prosecutor and cia lead case and bush administration. we didn't have this conversation during the star investigation of the president clinton. it is somewhat different legal situation for ken star. but the point is, most presidents recognize that firing a special prosecutor is a political risk in a big way. it echos water g...