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Campaign. you have a lot of conjecture with what we've done, but we're getting close to the end. we feel confident as the end approaches there's going to be no demonstration of any inclusion. >> michael, is this the beginning of the end? >> no i don't think so. maybe the end of the beginning. i think there are three broad areas mueller's got. one is financial crime generally. manafort represented the first step in that. you have manafort representing step one. probably flynn in step two. then they're going to look at the trump business empire and the kushner business empire and cohen. i think ...

Muddied up by congress. >> absolutely. that is very interesting, because it does suggest that robert mueller thinks there's many areas these people can talk about. they can shed light on meetings, interactions without jeopardizing any potential prosecutions. it doesn't foreclose the possibility there are areas mueller asked the congress to stay away from. >> remember, the only thing that would jeopardize the prosecution is if they get immunity from congress. they can say whatever they want in open session or to people on the street without jeopardizing the prosecution. only if congress gives t...