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Variant. these aren't big, blanket measures that will have a big effect on the whole economy overall and crucially, the government isn't introducing covid or vaccine certificates or passports yet, i think that is where there will be a real political difficulty for the government in terms of their behaviour on this. also, this is about buying time for the scientists to get to work to work out what is really going on with this variant. it may be in a couple of weeks' time it isn't that much more transmissible, the effects are just as mild as other variants and it doesn't have any effect on the r...

I mentioned how some of the conservatives who had been sceptical are looking for a vote on these new measures that are coming in from tomorrow morning at 4am. i think it's unlikely there will be a vote before they come in, i think it will before they come in, i think it will be retrospectively approved by mps. the reason we are only hearing low—level grumbles from those sceptical mps is because these are quite targeted measures to deal with the variant. these aren't big, blanket measures that will have a big effect on the whole economy overall and crucially the government isn't introducing v...

Types of mandates. wolf? >> that's a significant development from the justice department right there. thank you very much. athena jones reporting. let's discuss with the acting director of the disease control. let me get your reaction to this news right away. i think it is significant that the opinion from the justice department now says that the government as well as private companies can mandate vaccinations for their employees. what is your reaction to that? what does that suggest to you? >> well, wolf, you know, i think what we're going to see is that a number of people who have been on th...

Be a wake-up call is foreign countries saying they don't want to lend us the money that we've become so dependent on. that would push up interest rates. we could see signs of interefla rates. because the u.s. is the safe haven and other countries want to lend us money, we have a huge advantage. i would add to that, we're borrowing it for consumption and not investments. these aren't big changes that would grow the economy. if we get to that moment of a wake-up call, that means we're already in trouble. what we really want -- i don't see this any time soon, but bipartisan cooperation on making ...

So how do you say michael cohen should go to jail for committing crimes the president directed him to and letting trump off the hook? that's the problem. >> but, well, because we don't know if the president directed him to do it. >> he's saying it happened. >> so michael cohen -- we can run enough tape on the show to eat up the next hour, michael cohen praising donald trump as the best guy, the most honest guy, right? so they're going to show that to a jury and say are you lying then or are you lying then? >> but the jury for the president -- >> the second thing is, you point out, gloria point...