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Core base. that 35, 38, whatever percentage might be, of people who have stuck with him from the beginning. he's told people around him that's where he feels if he can cater to them, there's still a path for him in 2020. as bleak as other polls may look it's a chance to thread the needle. if he can keep his base, look strong to them and then pick off just a few undecideds and he believes people the polls aren't capturing. he feels that's how he won. he thinks he can do it again. in this case, the polling -- other polls suggest he is taking the lion's share of the blame for the shutdown but he'...

Path for him in 2020. as bleak as other polls may look it's a chance to thread the needle. if he can keep his base, look strong to them and then pick off just a few undecideds and he believes people the polls aren't capturing. he feels that's how he won. he thinks he can do it again. in this case, the polling -- other polls suggest he is taking the lion's share of the blame for the shutdown but he's not willing to blink. >> i want to go to eli on this. you have a democratic caucus that for the last couple of months has seemed fractured. is this helping to actually solidify nancy pelosi's posit...

Contrast, even fess not ready to be president, he's put. >> it is >> jonathan, do you take him at his word, he doesn't want to run or one of those faux washington oh i don't, i'm not run? >> i think right now, tough go with the form, because of the language he has used. he has gone to some length saying he is not going to run, talking about committing suicide to prove his point. so it seems like he is serious for now, open to being vp next year as well. i think this criticalizes the gop's challenge. think about the most talked about people in the party, rick perry, jeb bush, chris christie the...