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They want to broaden their appeal to young people and to different kinds of minorities, but yet they are in a little bit of a stranglehold of the conservatives and the tea party, so they are in a very tough political spot. i think ultimately the republicans in the senate will end up, a number of them will end up support of this bill, but john boehner just announced this morning that it will -- this bill will probably not see the light of day in the house. which means it won't become law, even though what we're about to see today will be historic if it passes the senate. it is probably unlikely...

Unfortunately, there are unscrupulous people in insurance companies, not all of them, obviously, but enough of them to be doing what they can to fool people, to get them to sign on to expensive policies they don't need. now that's mostly a matter of state regulations. some states have the ability under law to prohibit it, to fine them, to stop them and kentucky is doing that. other states don't and should get that capability. if we were operating in a normal environment, that is where the republicans as well as the democrats were trying to make the law work instead of trying to destroy it, we ...

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So republican fire brand ted cruz is in another important 2016 state today. senator cruz, who visited iowa less than two weeks ago, is in south carolina to speak at a pastors policy briefing in columbia. it's the same group that newt gingrich spoke to twice before he won the state's 2012 presidential primary. joining me now is msnbc contributor jimmy williams and republican strategist hogan gidley. hogan, let me start with with you. this is a smart move for ted cruz, isn't it? >> it is a smart move. i'm not going to swipe your cuts like chris matthews did in your first half of television. >> i...

Running. >> not just to get the website exchanges up and running but to give out a lot of the information because the states aren't doing it. >> in so many of these reds states there has obstruction in getting the exchanges up and running. in states where they are running we've seen success, in maryland an also kentucky. but we continue to push through this thing together. we'll let you go, sir. new york congressman jerrold nadler. i want to bring in the host of "hardball," chris matthews. chris, it's good to have you here. the latest revelations about the millions of people that have lost the...