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Defense industries in their districts. and that's probably why they thought they might get some democratic votes on this. but, you know, i think that if people sort of take a look at what kind of government this is going to create and where is the balance in government at a time when there's rising inequality. it ought to be pushing a little bit in favor of the people who aren't doing so well. >> and the chart that we show, and we'll show it again, i mean, this is only going to feed into this separation. we've showed how productivity has gone up over the past years, but wages have not kept up....

When there's rising inequality. it ought to be pushing a little bit in favor of the people who aren't doing so well. >> and the chart that we show, and we'll show it again, i mean, this is only going to feed into this separation. we've showed how productivity has gone up over the past years, but wages have not kept up. wage earners, they're not getting their fair share, and republicans want to make it even harder for the poor to stay afloat. it plays right into the what the obama campaign is all about right now. >> i thought tonight of an old mario cuomo line, who said, this is based on the ph...

Necessarily sexy aren't going to be -- >> for example? >> for example, microcredit has gotten fancy over the years, but it hasn't necessarily lifted people out of poverty. >> transformive. >> exactly. >> what is? >> staying in that area, helping people get active in bank accounts, and particularly bank accounts that take care of their own frailties, about how we make presumptions between savings. it gives women more power in the household and to achieve more goals that they have. >> i imagine you have a litany of examples. that's why one writes a book. at the end of the day, the decision to wh...

Or defund them. will that be helpful? >> it will be. we are in a unique period where the catholic church feels it's under attack. short run it will be beneficial. long-term is taking the fight to obama. >> sean: what about the issue from the book he suggested that two income families aren't doing what is best for the kids. he writes parents when the family could get by on one salary, you know, is that going to come under fire? >> that will come under fire. >> sean: how does he answer it? >> answer it again, that is my opinion. i was fortunate enough to my wife can stay home with our children. ...

Will that be helpful? >> it will be. we are in a unique period where the catholic church feels it's under attack. short run it will be beneficial. long-term is taking the fight to obama. >> sean: what about the issue from the book he suggested that two income families aren't doing what is best for the kids. he writes parents when the family could get by on one salary, you know, is that going to come under fire? >> that will come under fire. >> sean: how does he answer it? >> answer it again, that is my opinion. i was fortunate enough to my wife can stay home with our children. we have have sev...