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Martin, unbelievable. what are you seeing? >> reporter: it's unbelievable don. i've seen, unfortunately, a lot of disasters in the past, and it's just staggering. as you come into town, especially in the area of the debris field, and this is a massive city, it's a very, very large place, and as you start to drive in there, immediately sensory overload begins. you go, oh, my god, look at that. and then you turn your head and say, oh, my god, look at that. and then look at this. and as you progress down the road it becomes greater and greater and greater and the sense of overwhelming disaster th...

That are doing well and areas that aren't doing as well. >> the assisting managing editor of "forbes" magazine and the market appear to be the key. >> in russia a lot of the steel and coal and aluminum bearings have come way up because the demand for receipt sources are so nug the emerging markets. it helps if you have a foot print or customer in asia, whether in the americas. even if you're not from yaasia, you can can be by billionaire by selling to asia. >> yet, the u.s. still has the largest number? >> yeah, china is coming on strong. >> thank you very much. they had how many? >> just over...

The goal is to have everything trickle down, cut taxes and there's going to be pain at most of these lower levels of society, but hey, maybe eventually they'll get a job that can play for health care and it won't be the state's problem anymore. that's the theory, but it's tougher to explain when people drop dead. >> she gets to brag she cut spending, but a lot of these people wind up in the emergency room anyway. and they wind up costing more money in some cases. so is it just kind of transferring the money around but getting to brag about cuts?ç >> it's tough because a lot of these problems ...

That means consumers are not spending nearly enough to get this economy off and out of the gravitational pull of the great roegs. >> the numbers show if there's cash on hand, people are more likely to save it than spend it. same with companies. companies sitting on all this money, which begs the question about tax cuts. people argue if you give businesses tax cuts, they will turn around and spend on hiring. but the big companies certainly aren't doing that will the small companies do it? >> the small companies are likely to hire if anybody is going to hire. the small companies also face the pr...

Law but nobody cares about that or sue over that but we sue arizona for enforcing the law and protecting our citizens. the cost is huge. i mentioned the new study, 2.7 billion to arizona. in this business, that they're's contributing, that's not true. they are taking jobs from americans and costing americans mills and mills of dollars in social costs and the crime again. statistics, facts. >> before we lose you, state nor pierce, isabelle, democratic leadership, we have a list of 11 republican senators who voted for immigration reform in 2006 who aren't doing much in the way of leadership on t...