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Repercussions on the morale that aren't fixable. >> you know them well as do i. i traveled with the white house. they are all -- everybody was incredibly upstanding in their jobs. having said that we do have a series of incidents that have come to light, in large part thanks to your reporting. the fact that as you said the new director didn't know about this apparently for five days does that speak to the fact that maybe there aren't lessons learned just in terms of the protocol to make sure these things don't happen? >> so i think two things are going on that have to do with the director's kn...

Offensive saying that people have characterized or mischaracterized an entire agency whose success record under enormous threats to this president and the prior president, in the world's worst hot zones have managed to get him home without a hang nail. and all of a sudden we've become some kind of pariah. some of these incidents were very serious and i'm not here to diminish any of them. but i think this is a kind of feeding frenzy on the secret service that may have repercussions on morale that aren't fixable at this point. >> you know them well as do i. i traveled with the white house. they ...