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It, they may have felt until they got the report, he didn't need to know about it. then the story exploded and i guess he did need to know about it. but that's how these things kind of happen. you know, everything does not wind up on the president's desk. >> no. >> it should have, but it didn't. >> yeah. good point. a friend of mine used to do the presidential daily briefings at 7:30 every morning in the oval office and they are intricate and they are broad and vast. i don't understand how something this significant, look, two big things just off the bat, the associated press raid, so to speak...

The only reason we're sitting out here and i had time to come out here and talk to you is because -- i was going to stay upstairs, the judge decided that she will take her lunch break, it is the lunch hour here, she will be available in about a little under an hour to take the verdict if they reach it. i did see two jurors in the hall escorted by a deputy. we heard a couple of them may want to take lunch. so perhaps they're not deliberating in this next hour. but they might be. >> i'm always amazed when i hear the smoke breaks, it is frequent. this is something jurors do a lot. they're under a...