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Issues. steve: richard, there's a really, really -- when i look at this debate, the change in the democrat position is just really striking. it used to be the case that they were very concerned about the impact of low-wage immigration on working people and their incomes. bernie sanders said it in the 2016 campaign. but that seems to be completely gone. >> two thing. one, i think ann is in the minority when it comes to where the country is on the dreamers. and the dreamers aren't low-scale workers. you have to be working in the country, two you have to be in the dlej or three in the military. s...

Steve: richard, there's a really, really -- when i look at this debate, the change in the democrat position is just really striking. it used to be the case that they were very concerned about the impact of low-wage immigration on working people and their incomes. bernie sanders said it in the 2016 campaign. but that seems to be completely gone. >> two thing. one, i think ann is in the minority when it comes to where the country is on the dreamers. and the dreamers aren't low-scale workers. you have to be working in the country, two you have to be in the dlej or three in the military. steve: le...

Rates produce? clearly having low taxes is not producing jobs, republicans all they ever do talk about we have no jobs. >> i reject out of hand your ludicrous stipulation at that taxes are low. mine certainly aren't low. i pay more than half of all income. >> we have lower taxes for people like you who are very rich. it is true. >> if you like. >> it is true. >> okay, you want to get to the mathematical truth? >> hard be objective truth? >> rich people pay for everything. >> are they creating jobs? where are the job creators. where are the jobs, where are the job creators. >> make overwhelming...