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United states, five countries, that we don't spy on each other and they share intelligence. now people are saying we should include germany and france in that five group of five and make it a group of seven. you agree? >> no. the germans, and france want to go there. but it's a special relationship that we've had with the english-speaking world that's built up over decades of trust. we compete with france on things and with germany. i mean, the worst thing about this, and is that we created a political problem for chancellor merkel, and the french, having this come out. >> inside germany. >> t...

Australia, new zealand, the united states, five countries, that we don't spy on each other and they share intelligence. some people say we should include germany and france in that group of five to make it a group of seven. do you agree? >> no, because the germans and france want to go there, but it's a special relationship we've had with the english speaking world that's there, built up over decades of trust. there are things with which we compete with france on and with germany. really, the worst thing about this, is that we created a political problem for chancellor merkel and the french ha...