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>> so the kind of jurors i wanted to take off that jury had absolutely nothing to do with their race, it had to do with their views on guns, with how open their mind was and whether or not they were willing to withhold judgment until all the evidence was in. >> julie, you look at juries all the time. how does race play in that jury room? >> well, i think it's a factor. i think it's hard to say, as robert just did, that he could look at zimmerman and know that race was not a factor for him. i think it's hard to put yourself in anyone else's mind and have a sense of it, whether you're talking ab...

Wanted to take off that jury had absolutely nothing to do with their race, it had to do with their views on guns, with how open their mind was and whether or not they were willing to withhold judgment until all the evidence was in. >> you look at juries all the time. how does race play in that jury room? >> i think it's a factor. i think it's hard to say, as robert just did, that he could look at zimmerman and know that race was not a factor for him. i think it's hard to put yourself in anyone else's mind and have a sense of it, whether you're talking about in this case the defendant or the ju...

♪ i'm just a white man ♪ comin' to you from the southland ♪ ♪ tryin' to understand what it's like not to be ♪ ♪ i'm proud of where i'm from ♪ but not everything we've done ♪ ♪ it ain't like you and me can rewrite history ♪ >> so let's talk a little history, music, and race. cnn contributor lz granderson is also a senior writer for espn. joining us from nashville, music city, tim wise and country music singer and songwriter and producer peter cooper. good to see all of you. so these guys obviously aren't racist, i don't think that they are. their intentions were good. is thi...

Here's one part of "accidental raci racist," that's the name of it. it's getting a lot of attention. ♪ i'm just a white man ♪ comin' to you from the southland ♪ ♪ tryin' to understand what it's like not to be ♪ ♪ i'm proud of where i'm from ♪ but not everything we've done ♪ ♪ it ain't like you and me can rewrite history ♪ >> so let's talk a little history, music and race. cnn contributor lz granderson is also a senior writer for espn. joining us from nashville, music city, tim wise and country music singer and songwriter and producer peter cooper. good to see all of you. so...

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