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Probably view that with some suspicion is considerer what white house press secretary sean spicer did. we understand he took cell phones away from several white house press staffers to find out if they were using ailiouses to communicate back and forth about what is going on inside this white house. so if the president believes they're coming from obama administration hold overs then why is the white house press secretary seizing the phone of his own white house press staffers. >> if the leaks aren't real, why is he trying to stop leaks that aren't real? >> reporter: that goes back to how can ...

>> i'm just saying there is a parallel. you're totally right there's a parallel. >> my point is, democrats kept telling themselves, oh, this isn't real. this is funded by koch brothers, not a grassroots type of organizations and, boom, blind-sided. seals like prps doing this. i get texts from family members, oh, they are paying protesters. no they are not. no, they are not. >> it doesn't matter who gives money to the organization that helps organize this much as koch brothers gave it to americans for prosperity, doesn't mean the protests aren't real. if people show up on their own time to one ...

Numbers aren't real. now we have a situation where maybe we really won't be able to trust the data that's coming out. und wh and you know what, republicans in congress, it's not clear that they'll do anything to protect the congressional budget office or protect anything other than donald trump and i think that's going to be a huge question. we will talk about that and many other things when i guests come back. coming up at noon, a day after more than a million people rallied around the world, how can democrats build on the massive display of people power? alex witt will have a closer look a...

The right thing. >> on the subject of what is truth, you may -- >> the age-old question. >> you may be in a position as attorney general to either enforce laws or bring actions that relate to the problem of carbon emissions and the changes that are taking place both physically and chemically in our atmosphere and oceans as a result of the flood of carbon emissions that we've had. it is the political position of the republican party and the senate, as i have seen it, that this is not a problem, that we don't need to do anything about it, that the facts aren't real, and that we should all do not...

To take to heart and all you can do is really continue doing great journalism and do your work as a mechanism for fighting against all this fake news. >> and yet, john, during the work that journalists do is getting increasingly difficult. a recent graphic came out and talked about facebook ingaejment. 8.7 million people engaged with stories deemed to be fake news and right now proper news is losing the fight with fake news for the eyeballs of the readers and conservative outlets and people like brent bowsel who has had a media group who challenged mark zuckerberg essentially conceding the fac...