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"these aren't sane arguments. we are not dealing with an rational party anymore so we have one party committed to the destruction of the country as we know it, and another party not all republicans but a good swath of them, let's be candid, who have abandoned the president and by complete cowards. they afraid of the media. what do you want the president to do? the guys in a corner. he is sitting there fighting the swap sometimes, almost entirely by himself. it's embarrassing. >> laura: luis, i want to go to you. people say americans against the wall. okay, i was in el paso, texas, . this was u...

Arguments like do walls work? these aren't sane arguments. we're not dealing with a rational party any more. we have one party committed to the destruction of the country as we know and another good swath of americans who have abandoned the president and are complete cowards, they're afraid of the media. what do you want the president to do? he's in a corner fighting the swamp sometimes almost entirely by himself. it's embarrassing. >> laura: luis, people have been saying americans are against the wall. okay? i was down in el paso texas, and this was under reported fact, and you could see it i...