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Conspiracy theories is somehow the president of the united states would want a country he doesn't even like, he doesn't even want to give foreign aid to, to have the ukrainians start an investigation into bidens. >> so according to your reporting he knew a lot more than he was letting onto. what does he have to say about this? >> well, he was extremely rude to two of my colleagues who went to physically confront him. his exact quote was to be perfectly clear i don't acknowledge any questions from you in this lifetime or the next lifetime. i mean, i will say, don, what's also really interesting...

Empathy. and the current president does not have that. why do you think that is? why do you have it, and why doesn't he? >> look, i don't think he's capable of empathy. i really don't. i've not seen a single thing of any indication he has any understanding of what other people are going through. and in a sense i wish i didn't have so much empathy. >> you faced a lot of loss. >> well, a lot of people have. a lot of people have faced more than i have, and they get every day without the kind of help i had with my family and put their foot one foot in front -- they're real heroes and go out every ...

Michael cohen after mr. trump suggested confidence he wouldn't turn on him. the president tweeted most people will flip if the government let's them out of trouble even if it means lying or making up stories. sorry. i don't see michael doing that despite the horrible witch-hunt and the dishonest media. but people close to the president aren't so sure. five sources who spoke to nbc news expressed concern that if confronted with jailtime, cohen will flip on the man he once said he'd take a bullet for. i want to bring back peter alexander, and charlie sykes, host of the daily standard podcast and...

First place. and so it is deeply disappointing this has been the path of president obama. reporter: did you hear that? i mean, he just said ironclad proof. i mean, wow! and the continued frustration for some of the administration that bibi netanyahu has been effusive in its praise for administration in security support. that is not the story now and not going away anytime soon. patti ann. patti ann: for sure. given unprecedented nature abstention in the u.n. is the obama administration expressing concern damage long term to u.s.-israeli relations? reporter: yeah. they would say flat-out not at...

It may sound like it's far fetched. people may hear this aren't so sure. does anyone have an alternative? is there a way out other than achieving the two state solution where the state of israel can live side by side with the state of palestinian. unfortunately up to this moment have any understanding. we accept the state of palestinian. we have two states but never at -- >> so -- >> we don't need that for the -- we know that two states and 1967. that peace process can be revived. it looks grim. as we know right now. certainly there's hope. thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you. comi...