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Many people are going to run. i don't think he's going to get a pass. now whether they beat him or not, i don't know but i think you're going to see people file who aren't sort of from the never trump land, but people who legitimately can say i voted for trump, i support the policies, but we can't win with him. i think you'll see candidates like that coming forward. the question is can they be successful. >> we'll see. one commonality among the list is none of those potential candidates has said decisively, i will not stand for this as you said there. that will be a big test as we get closer t...

Responsibility across corporate america and from americans just in their daily lives in terms of fending this off. you work with a lot of companies on this front. some of them better than others. what's your read on what they need to do more of and what all of us can do more of. >> i think a lot of the companies are grappling with the, you know, the problem of sort of increasingly sort of fighting an adversary that's changing and adapting and growing at all times. these aren't sort of static problems. you to can't just build a wall and then your day is over. >> right. >> every day vulnerabilit...