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Trippi. >> i am lightning, devil ray. >> brian: aren't the devil rays like lightning. >> manta rays. >> gretchen: talk about the politicings. >> stop mocking. >> brian: negative campaigning. do you find it joe trippi if you are barack obama? >> i mean, look. there is a lot of four pinock chows and pans on fire run by a bunch the different side and super pacs. but the fact of the matter, you have people who have always made a decision about the incumbent. they know who the president is and they like him or don't like him. they are now looking at the other guy. mitt romney in this case. 30 perce...

And should be two or three points up and right back in the democratic convention. >> gretchen: it is a wash. >> brian: it is not likely to give him a bounce unless he does something different. he will spend time beating occupy romney. shock, karl. >> gretchen: before you go. quickly do people make up their mindsav the convention. >> yes, some people make up their minds. 6-8 percent of the electorate is undecided and 15-20 points and they are persuadable. >> most tends to break against the incumbent and there is a way for romney to break even. >> brian: i hope you are on speaking terms. >> it i...