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Outside the lines yet in terms of recent history. i think that she is waiting to see exactly what the ground rules will be, because as before in 1998, the articles of impeachment were transmitted simultaneously with the floor managers. and it's hard to understand or determine what kind of floor managers you want to send into this impeachment trial if you don't know what the groundrules are. let me give some color to that. so if they do allow witness, which i think is the most outstanding question here, witnesses or documents, then you might want somebody that has more prosecutorial experience....

Judiciary committee produce. so it's a little hard to determine who it is you want to send over there until you know how it's going to be conducted. >> well, but you can -- but to your point you know what each of those scenarios would entail. so if you're speaker pelosi, aren't the odds pretty good that you already have your list made in these various scenarios? so you know once those rules roll out, here's what we've got? here are my managers. >> many are called, few are chosen. i think the list of people among my house democratic colleagues who would like to participate in this is longer tha...

But aren't the odds about a zillion to one that she didn't realize this is a leak and it will be quickly? >> i think it was purposeful on her part. when she has almost 60 members in her caucus i want to move forward with impeachment, she's really trying to tamp it down because impeachment is not going to be good for the democrats for a variety of reasons. what she's doing with the messaging and having the so-called leak is to show that she is in solidarity with her caucus. >> clarence come what they are suggesting that when he spoke to laura ingram and told them that -- if he is slamming nancy...

Ridiculous. i think both sides are violating norms and one of those norms violations are one end of that is getting far more coverage than the other. >> beverly, nancy poses comments were made of private but aren't the odds about a zillion to one that she didn't realize this is a leak and it will be quickly? >> i think it was purposeful on her part. when she has almost 60 members in her caucus i want to move forward with impeachment, she's really trying to tamp it down because impeachment is not going to be good for the democrats for a variety of reasons. what she's doing with the messaging an...

Sure, yeah, that's more important. when you think about it, look, what we are talking about is that we are going to lose a couple months at the end of the world. >> if you see the end coming, it is not like we are going to go like, we can chill out 400 years ago, and we just discovered people were a little more true. >> they say by 2030 we will be using double the earth's capacity. ant the odds that -- aren't the odds that we will just find another earth? >> yes, i guess that's why the space exploration. i think we need to threaten a planet terry shut down it is some kind of debt thing. >> are...