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Aren't we doing more here at home and the vague nationalism, and that's where bannon leaned towards, and he turned over his agenda to small government republicans in congress and mike pence, they just don't have the same nationalist view as he does. >> they do have the big legislative wind with the tax bill, and jonathan you have reporting that there's still anxiety inside the white house about what they are going to do for 2018 and if this will be enough to carry them. what you have learned about the fears there? >> there's a widely held view in the republican party that, yes, it's good we ha...

We keep the entire program intact, the new eligibility program intact, ask states to pay their share. maybe as important as all the rest, in the eighth year, we actually require that the program begin to grow at a slightly slower pace so that we have a chance of actually keeping up with it. joe, i've always been concerned about the growth of our entitlement programs. they are driving the fiscal train wreck we're on. medicaid is the single biggest driver of this. and someone needs to tell me, what is a more responsible reform for a giant out of control entitlement program than a slight curb in ...

How the others who don't have as much experience in this area respond to her and what their plans are. to me that will be one of the biggest points of conversation. obviously democratic voters are really interested both in the economic and in national security and anti-terrorism strategies. and i think both of those topics will be, you know, the absolute focus tonight. at least for the candidates. who knows what the moderators will be asking. >> governor, is there any concern -- democrats at all talked that this is the third debate and it's on a saturday night, days before christmas with an nf...

And why aren't we doing anything about it? why aren't we being firm as to why are we allowing that to happen? >> why don't you think we are? >> what. >> why don't you think we are. >> we have an incompent president. >> well, is he the only president that is -- that is -- had a policy basically -- >> no. i wasn't exactly a big fan, as you know, he may be a republican but i wasn't a big fan. i was the one that called osama bin laden. i would have had bin laden knocked out. and maybe the world trade center as it was would have been standing right now. >> so coming up, the political global and eco...

We've got -- >> that, i think, that -- if there's one thing that's clear to me, it's that it's not, like, republicans will tell you, yes, big money has too much influence. that shows up widely in the polling, but also anecdotally. you're out reporting and talking to people -- >> so why aren't we doing something about it? why isn't this at least 10% of being discussed? but instead, we spend eight weeks trying to line the depths of donald trump's brain, instead of talking about a real issue that if we'd solve, would make it really possible to govern. still ahead, my interview with seth myers. ...