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Stuff that came up in michael cohen's case that isn't over, that doesn't appear to be resolved by cohen going to prison and that may involve other people who as far as we know haven't been charged thus far. we'll have more on that coming up this hour as well. but there's one other piece of this -- along these lines, amid all of these mixed signals we're getting, that things definitely look like they're wrapping up and these other signals that we're getting that make it seem like things definitely aren't wrapping up, there's one other thing going on right now that i think informs our sense of...

Within the justice department. zaynab ahmad going somewhere else in the justice department. andrew weisman reportedly leaving to go back to academia. does that give you the sense that things are changing fundamentally at the special counsel's office. that things are wrapping up, that they may be handing off any unrelated stuff to nonspecial prosecutors? >> it's not as if the mueller shop is fully open or fully closed. all these people, particularly those remaining within the justice department, can be recalled to work on, you know, bits and pieces of their case that remain, but by and large, r...

Then we got another just yesterday. zaynab ahmad, another counterterrorism prosecutor. she worked on the flynn case. she has also gone back to her old job. and, yes, the special counsel is basically done with mike flynn in terms of his cooperation, but that is not the only case ahmad was working on. she's also been part of the mystery case involving mueller's office and some mystery corporation we're not 5uallowedo know the name of that's run by some foreign country we're not allowed to know either. that case does not seem to be done. zaynab ahmad was apparently part of that, but nevertheless ...

Well, that sort of seems like maybe the special counsel's office is pulling up stakes and wrapping things up. on the other hand, you probably saw the headlines today about the hundreds of pages of michael cohen case materials that were just unsealed today in which among other things the redactions in these documents, in particular, make it seem like there really is some central key stuff that came up in michael cohen's case that isn't over, that doesn't appear to be resolved by cohen going to prison and that may involve other people who as far as we know haven't been charged thus far. we'll ha...