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>> yes, in rulings. he wanted to open it up to -- he changed. >> they've, right. but let me ask you about the ruling. so you're not worried. let me ask you where you stand. let's face it, a district court judge isn't going to decide this. this is probably going to the supremes. if you look at the decision they made about sodomy where they said that couldn't be outlawed down in texas they'll probably look at liberty and say it permits people to have same-sex marriage just as the liberty claus clause permits marriage between the same genders. aren't you afraid that's going to happen? i think you...

Already overturned in this case by both the ninth circuit and u.s. supreme court. he so mishandled this case -- >> what do you mean overturned? >> yes, in rulings. he wanted to open it up. he changed the federal rules. >> let me ask you about the ruling. so you're not worried. let me ask you where you stand. let's face it. a district court judge isn't going to decide this. this is probably going to the supremes. but if you look at the decision they made about sodomy where they said that couldn't be outlawed down in texas they will probably look at that value again of liberty in the 14th amendm...