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Subjective but politics by definition is subjective. so you're trying to impose a subject of standard with these averages of polls that we know historically where people are in the polls on november whatever it is. >> there's this argument polls mean nothing, polls mean this. >> they don't mean nothing but they -- it's a factor but it shouldn't be the factor. >> or maybe they go state by state, joe. >> well, again, you have to look and see we've always said, anybody who knows how politics work, these national polls are beauty contests. how are you doing in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina a...

Talking about adiction in new hampshire but it's gone viral. i was watching over the course of two shows here on morning joe pu folks from the class watching this video for the first time and their mouth dropping open like this is the candidate. this is the moment. yet, there's this process that's comple completely separate from how people feel or what's happening in the moment that is getting these men on and off the main stage. couldn't there be a better way to do it? >> certainly it becomes much more subjectives. you're trying to oppose a subjective standard on averages. we know where peopl...