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That's what the moderates hope, the democrats who think this is too liberal, too expensive. you can't sell it all at once. they're hoping joe biden can make that case tonight, that he is stronger and that he has a better answer. that was the question about the moderates last night. their answer was it's too big or trump will shove this down our throats, not you're wrong. >> right. >> they're not playing on the same playing field. a lot of those one percenters were trying to get in there. hillary clinton stronger together, that was her campaign slogan, as lisa is laughing at me. we spent a lot ...

This. why are we going to ram this down their throats? can he make it in a passionate way? >> he has kamala harris as a protagonist in that argument that he will try to make as forcefully as they can. i think they recognize the fallout from the last debate in raising questions about, you kn know, how aggressive he can be and, you know, how up for prime time he really is on a debate stage. you raised tim pawlenty earlier. cory booker has forecast this had line of attack on joe biden and his crime record and can he deliver that? can he live up to that? cory booker is often sort of rosie kumbaya ...

Insurance people like from their employer. hickenlooper, there, you cannot decriminalize border crossings. that sends a signal. passion and boom a smack back, warren and sanders stood center stage saying no, this is our party now. we're in the middle because this is our party. >> it felt, at times, like a high school basketball team playing an nba team. progressives on the center of the stage were emphatic and good debaters and on the sides of the stage, you had people still fighting for oxygen. so, they couldn't make the case quite as forcefully. maybe biden can't either. he has been shaky bu...