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Many regular men and women coming off the streets. they need weapons, things like a rifle. i've been hearing more and more from u.s. officials about the need to arm these individuals to fight. 20 million rounds of ammunition. that's important. no battle ever has been enough ammunition in a conflict. then, of course, the drones you mentioned extremely important. we had an exclusive report last night that the u.s. is considering sending switchblade drones. the president didn't specify what drones, but those are armed drones. they could be a game changing for the ukrainians on the ground, chuck. ...

Missiles raining down on their cities. >> one of the things zelenskyy wanted were armed drones. the president said they're sending drones to help in this fight. is that your understanding, that those are the armed drones that zelenskyy has been calling for or not? >> actually, what we have been told here at the pentagon is that there is a turkish drone system armed that the u.s. -- that the ukraine forces have that they are using with great success. i think whatever additional drones go into ukraine will most likely be a combination of armed and unarmed, essentially some may be reconnaissance ...

Have shown, it moved me to tears. i was speechless when i left the room, and what i know now is that we must do everything we can working with our allies and partners with and through them to increase our fighter jets, be sure we get those drones to them, increase their air defenses, and i can tell you that i am chairwoman of the subcommittee on commerce. we need to shut down american trade and we they'd to sanction the moscow stock exchange. so there are things we can do in every avenue to isolate chairman putin, to shim for the animal that he is, on the ukrainian people on a sovereign countr...

Administration a list of requests. that list includes equipment like armed drones, anti-ship missiles, off-the-shelf electronic jamming equipment and surface-to-air missiles, but also more of what the united states has already been providing, more of those stinger anti-aircraft missiles, more javelin anti-tank weapons. nbc's intelligence ken delaney is behind this reporting and we're joined by jason beardsly, national executive director of the association of the u.s. navy. ken, you laid out that list in your reporting. you also drill into a very specific kind of drone that the biden administra...

The drones that we're sending, these armed drones, is there much of a difference in what they can do versus what a mig can do for them? >> yes. the migs, 100%, they are a symbol. it would be a show of strength or conversation in the ukrainians, but the reality is, from an operational perspective, they're not necessarily what's been needed. ukraine isn't flying most of the migs they have. what is more valuable from an operational perspective for ukraine right now are a couple things that president biden pointed out, thing already being provided to ukraine. one that caught my attention was 800 a...