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>> i think they would be challenge in the court. there were ten lawsuits around the country challenging daca. i think the united states in trying on defend that would lose. >> congressman, that is -- that is a process argument. it was not a process argument from jeff sessions. he said those people, referring to these folks, family members of your constituents, they took americans' jobs. they were brought here at 5 or 7. they're taking from americans. do you agree with that? >> i agree that there are immigration policies and laws here are broken. and they have to be fixed. that's not the ques...

Armed serviceses or teachers are taking americans' jobs? >> my understanding is they haven't broken the law. noted intent to break the law when they were 2 years old and their parents brought them in. we have to figure out how to get them to a legal status. some pathway. that's what the president has said. but it has to be created by congress. >> i want to be clear here. i've been covering immigration and legislative fights for 12 years now. i started in 2005 on a bill called the d.r.e.a.m. act. under the pathway to citizenship. now they're talking about comprehensive reform. you and i know, a...