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Really what's happening to brittney griner, she's been kidnapped and she's being held now in exchange for something that putin wants, whether or not it's high profile russians that are held here in the united states. many people spoke about viktor bout. he's just an arms trafficker, a horrible person who's in jail for 25 years here in the united states. it could be that's what putin wants, a prisoner swap, or some other high level prisoner. that is really her only hope, aside from a ten-year prison sentence. >> we should be clear the biden administration and many administrations are usually re...

Russian system. and the only thing that really she can hope for is that what vladimir putin wants out of this which is an exchange of prisoners. really what's happening to brittney griner, she's been kidnapped and she's being held now in exchange for something that putin wants, whether or not it's high profile russians that are held here in the united states. many people spoke about viktor bout. he's just an arms trafficker, a horrible person who's in jail for 25 years here in the united states. it could be that's what putin wants, a prisoner swap, or some other high level prisoner. that is re...

Worse almost than it's ever been. you know, brittney griner is well known figure. she could be valuable commodity if russia wanted to try to trade her for somebody that they want. there's been speculation in the russian media that might want his name is victor boot. he is a convicted arms trafficker. he's in the united states, in fact serving 25 years in illinois. it could be that she could be part of an idea of exchanging prisoners. >> yeah. jill, the biden administration appears quite engaged in her case now. her wife is skeptical the maximum effort is being put forward. >> i do have to, unf...

And that's autocrats who kidnap innocent americans like brittani, and use them as pawns to try and get leverage with the u.s. government. >> let me go back to the point that you started out with, that you believe she's a political prisoner. do you have a theory as to why she's being held as such? do you anticipate, or expect, the russians are trying to use her detention as some kind of leverage with the americans over what is happening in ukraine? or perhaps somewhere else that were unaware of? >> could be ukraine, they could be using her as leverage. there is an infant this arms trafficker, a...

And that's autocrats who kidnap innocent americans like brittani, and use them as pawns to try and get leverage with the u.s. government. >> let me go back to the point that you started out with, that you believe she's a political prisoner. do you have a theory as to why she's being held as such? do you anticipate, or expect, the russians are trying to use her detention as some kind of leverage with the americans over what is happening in ukraine? or perhaps somewhere else that were unaware of? >> could be ukraine, they could be using her as leverage. there is an infant this arms trafficker, a...