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So yes. thank you for bringing that to the court's attention and making a record of that. i can indicate that -- you are the parents of stephen crumbley, is that correct? >> yes, that's correct. >> that's correct. >> thank you. if you can state your full names, that would be great. >> i'm jennifer crumbley. >> james crumbley. >> thank you very much. anything else from the people before we bring stephen crumbley in and -- >> no, judge. i would like to speak to the bond at the appropriate time. >> all right. so for arraignment purposes, the

At the same time and secondly, he was in pakistan five months last year, thirdly, had no visible means of support, and paid cash for a car, and obviously had -- paid cash for a ticket to dubai and there had to be cooperation with someone other than himself. bill: he was not alone is what you are saying. >> yes. and the other thing, he has a disincentive to cooperate, as i understand his wife and two small children are in pakistan now. bill: that is our understanding also. and, it is 10:36 in the morning and we haven't seen him and don't know when the hearing is. it may not even happen today. >...