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How much progress catholics have made in this country. that they have been accepted and been able to prosper so well in this environment of religious freedom. and also the way catholics are big supporters of religious freedom in this country. >> as the pope made very clear in the second thing he said on the white house lawn. i want to ask you about these extraordinary moments coming out today where he was immediately on that rope line, people were taking selfies, people were kissing him and hugging him. and at first i was a little taken aback. he had a -- a holy figure like the pope, how do yo...

With. that speech to me is example of -- example a in why it is hard to categorize him in political terms. >> you were speaking about him speaking english, i read that he studied it in ireland when he was there many, many years ago for three months in argentina, but he spoke very well, indeed. he communicated well on the white house arrival lawn. >> what i was struck with is that he was trying really, really hard, to -- first of all, give the speech, not just say all the words correctly, but to really give the speech some passion, especially in the parts of or about climate change. but you're ...