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>> there is no reason yet to suspect arson. you have to work these investigations at the worst case scenario and then downgrade from there. you bring in all your experts, all your arson experts. then you narrow it down to was this an electrical issue? was this some type of other maybe pyro technic that lit a fire? were there fires burning in there? something as simple as a cigarette could cause a fire that leads to something like this. those all need to be worked out by the experts. >> the debris you were mentioning in the front, difficulty of entry you had, could that have contributed? >> we ...

Arson experts determined the fire in fred and rebecca barney's house was no accident. >> stove pulled out, gas line cut. it has all the appearances of somebody trying to conceal what had just taken place in that home. >> but the killer hadn't counted on someone driving by and reporting the fire. that call cost kenneth maxwell his life but saved a lot of evidence. >> bless his heart. he saved the investigation. he got 911 help there, the fire department put out the fire, and there was still plenty of evidence for us to analyze and work off of. >> kenneth maxwell's 911 call also prevented fire d...

Was guilty? >> after i had seen all of the evidence, it was overwhelming that he was guilty. >> reporter: david martin was one of willingham's court appointed defense lawyers at his 1992 trial. so keeping them honest, what exactly did martin do to defend willingham? the prosecution had two arson investigators on the stand to prove that willingham was guilty. did you have an expert testify? >> we couldn't find one who said that it wasn't arson. >> reporter: couldn't find one. but since the trial, nine. that's right. nine different arson experts have concluded the fire was not arson. what eviden...

Force that will look into this. that will be a group of specialists and individuals who are from our local, state, and federal agencies. i would imagine every resource available to the city of oakland will be available to them. i'm talking high-level crime lab assistance and crime lab reconstruction. that will all take place in the coming days. we will be at this crime scene for days to come as we move forward. >> there is no reason yet to suspect arson. so you bring in all your arson experts and you narrow it down to, was this an electrical issue? was this some type of other pyrotechnic that ...