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Describing. can you respond to that issue? >> well, look, i think that there are solutions in the affordable care act and that they should be strengthened. one of the challenging is he wnt do enough competition. there's not competitive bidding. one of the things is that people can charge exorbitant prices and there's no competition to get a lower price. it's something that this really amazing article points out, and i think that is -- there are a number of steps -- it doesn't matter who is paying for things and how they're paid for. some of the ideas around bundling and ensuring that we're pay...

President himself when interviewed earlier this year when asked what was his single most mistake he said he had failed to -- in terms of his messaging. is this one area that ari's article points to where in a sense he's been somewhat slow in coming forward in terms of what he's done in relation directly to black voters? >> i think that this is a very complicated issue within the black community. because there is this sense -- even within the black community that there's a supposed for for the president and there really isn't. when you talk to folks, there's a wide range of opinions. there are ...

When asked what was his single most mistake he said he had failed to -- in terms of his messaging. is this one area that ari's article points to where in a sense he's been somewhat slow in coming forward in terms of what he's done in relation directly to black voters? >> i think that this is a very complicated issue within the black community. because there is this sense -- even within the black community that there's a supposed for for the president and there really isn't. when you talk to folks, there's a wide range of opinions. there are a lot of black people to the left of this president. ...

Is this one area that ari's article points to where in a sense he's been somewhat slow in coming forward in terms of what he's done in relation directly to black voters? >> i think that this is a very complicatedish shooi within the black community. because there is this sense -- even within the black community that there's a supposed for for the president and there really isn't. when you talk to folks, there's a wide range of opinions. there are a lot of black people to the left of this president. and so that's where he's getting that criticism from. you still get the support in that sort of ...

>> the "more" magazine article suggests that you and candy, you are the vanna whites of debate moderators. why are guys getting the more influential jobs? >> i think it might have something to do with the fact that the commission on presidential debates is made up mostly of men. i think of the 17 members, only two are women. i would have to think if more women were part of the commission, that more women would have a bigger role than we have now. >> well, and the commission on presidential debates wasn't always in charge. leslie, the article points out, that for a long time, i this i it was '8...