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Privately about the controversy. >> the president just simply said to me, i'm not the guy that is being describe in the media. >> reporter: do you believe him? >> i don't think president trump is a racist in the traditional sense that we know in this country. i think president trump is racially ignorant or racially denying it. but i don't think that he's ary cyst in the traditional sense. >> reporter: the president tried to deny the remarks. he said what was tough was the outlandish proposal made, a big setback. democratic senator dick durbin at the meeting said the president is not telling th...

A political lens as a strategist, i understand donald trump is a 34% according to the poll that came out last week nationwide. he almost has no place to go. remember richard nixon was at 28% when he resigned from office. donald trump needs to hold the base he has, and the reality is he was throwing out red meat tonight to his base. these racist, angry constituents that helped propel him into office. the right lane is he was defiant tonight. his statement endorsed a convicted felony who is ary cyst. it value dates the argument that donald trump is a racist. the reality is, this is further evide...

And the bottom line is, taxpayers need to understand why -- what their money is being used for, and here's the irony of it. the way it's being used, ultimately you have to spend more money on the same people who need benefits because of obesity problems. a lot of junk food. >> neil: potato chips and snacks, find ways to get liquor. the question is, how do you rein it in and you argue the genuinely poor than those who say -- some say you're ary cyst. >> you get the racist aspect of it. >> how do you feel about that? >> if you want to talk about realistically, people who get sucked into these pr...